M I N U T E S

                        KITSAP COUNTY
                          BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS

                     September 22, 2003 - PM

The Board of Commissioners met on the above-stated date.  Present 
were Chair Jan Angel, Commissioner Chris Endresen, Commissioner 
Patty Lent, County Administrator Malcolm Fleming and Clerk of the 
Board, Opal Robertson. (THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS' PUBLIC MEETINGS AND 
PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE AUDIO AND VIDEO TAPED). 

ITEMS SET FOR TIME CERTAIN:


7:00 PM)	Meeting Called to Order with Pledge of Allegiance.

7:00 PM) 	Public Hearing to receive oral and written testimony regarding: General 
Comprehensive Plan Text Amendments and Corrections, Subarea Plans and Code 
Changes to implement Subarea Plans (Utility Local Improvement District #6, Kingston 
Subarea  & South Kitsap Industrial Area), Limited Areas of More Intense Rural 
Development (LAMIRDs), Interim Forest Resource Lands (IRF) and Site Specific 
Rezones. 

Laura Ditmer, Department of Community Development, said on September 8, 2003, the 
Board held the first phase of the comprehensive plan amendment process public 
hearing. She said discussion and comments were received on text and policy revisions, 
interim rural forest and the three subarea plans, South Kitsap Industrial Area, Kingston 
and ULID #6. Ditmer said additional discussion and comments would be received on 
these items prior to going into the second phase of comprehensive plan amendments, 
which is to receive testimony on LAMIRD's as well as site specific.

Chair Angel gave the ground rules asking that comments be limited to three minutes 
per person.

SUB-AREA PLANS:

Bill Mullins said he is a homeowner in McCormick Woods, is against the sub-area plan 
and has been from the beginning.

Dusty Meyer questioned whether the county is headed for a crisis or was it already 
here. She questions whether it is legal for the county to help cities grow and whether 
planners were ignoring state and federal set-aside forest areas? She asks the Board to 
stop the code and zone changes and preserve what is left of the county's ecosystem.

Jon Rose, Olympic Property Group, submitted additional materials to the Board 
regarding the Kingston Sub-Area plan and asked the Board to look to the future after 
population numbers have been re-allocated.

Rob Purser, Suquamish Tribe, addressed the Board with concerns about SKIA and 
ULID #6 stating that the Council agrees with the Planning Commission's initial finding 
that included the proposal was not a logical extension of the existing urban growth 
boundaries, the phased planning approach does not promote comprehensive planning, 
expansion of the existing South Kitsap urban growth area is inconsistent with the 
available lands provision, ULID#6 area is not directly contiguous in the City of Port 
Orchard and equally requires that intervening areas that are previously down zoned to 
be considered before or concurrently with the ULID#6 area and the proposal promotes 
a sprawling development pattern. He said the county has not followed the 
comprehensive plan and the development of the South Kitsap sub-area plan. 
Regarding SKIA, Purser said the Tribe has storm water and ground water concerns.

Ken Atterbery, Port of Bremerton, thanked the Board for encouraging the Port and 
county staff to work together and said their discussions are continuing. He said if the 
policies for the 1999 plan amendments regarding urban growth areas and the 
memorandum of agreement is followed, a solution could be reached.

Mike McCuddin, McCormick Woods resident, said relative to wetlands, he did not 
believe that a decision to place what amounts to another city in this area is feasible 
without knowing the impacts.

Rod Reid said he has received the document that Kamuron Gurol passed out earlier 
and would hold his comments until later. He said that at the previous hearing, he 
addressed a map correction and noticed tonight that it is still not corrected. He pointed 
out the area on the posted map.

Tom Donnelly said planning is about how to achieve a common vision of what we want 
this county to be and to develop the process to achieve the vision. He said there needs 
to be a plan for the growth. Donnelly said Rob Purser described pretty well his idea on 
ULID#6 and the same thing holds true for Kingston. Relative to SKIA, he said he was 
puzzled by the introduction of a golf course on the Port area.

Bob Johns, representing McCormick Woods, submitted documents for the record and 
said relative to SKIA, there is a 20-acre mineral resource area and he had submitted a 
geological report showing a gravel resource on site of commercial value. Relative to 
ULID#6, he said he submitted a water plan indicating that there is a water system 
available within ULID#6. He said this has been a long process, believed that it has been 
carefully planned and the staff has reviewed it. He said a number of minor technical 
amendments had been proposed but understands the staff is preparing a summary of 
those amendments and encouraged the Board to review the amendments. 

Ron Ross said relative to SKIA, he did not believe the business center zone was 
appropriate to be placed into the county regulations in this manner. He also said under 
paragraph F - Uses Prohibited needs to be clarified. Ross states concerns about the 
restriction of water and energy intensive businesses as well as height restrictions.

Jerry Harless said relative to ULID #6, this was not the correct way to move forward on 
this issue that it did not comply with the law and would not last. 

Betsy Cooper said relative to the Kingston Sub-area plan, it is not clear what the 
definition of this action really is, whether it's a proposed change to the sub-area plan or 
a site-specific amendment. She has concerns about whether the comprehensive plan 
test for the designation of urban reserve has been met. Cooper asked the Board to 
consider whether it could move forward with this plan at this time because she did not 
believe it was supportable by the materials before the Board.

Roxanna Dumar said she and her husband moved to McCormick Woods for the 
purpose of getting away from "all the people." She said there is only one road leading 
into McCormick Woods and if the other road were opened, it would mean approximately 
10,000 people who would not choose the Old Clifton Road route but would utilize 
McCormick Drive. 

Discussion was held between the Board and staff about the actual amount of 
population proposed for the McCormick area, 10,000 or 6,400.

Betsy Collins, Stillwater Education & Environmental, said relative to the Kingston Sub-
area plan, their primary concern is protection of Carpenter Creek and the zoning 
change affecting the Waggoner and Bradley properties, east and north east of 
Carpenter Creek.

Richard Brown said the ULID #6 process has been going on forever and believes that if 
some of the speakers tonight had attended previous county meetings, they would know 
that this is probably the most environmentally studied piece of property around. He said 
the county needed to move forward on this project.

POLICY & TEXTUAL REVISIONS:

Dave Jones, Kitsap County Association of Realtors, addressed the Board with concerns 
about accessory dwelling units.

Chair Angel explains that accessory dwelling units were not slated on tonight's agenda.

INTERIM RURAL FOREST:

Rod Reid – pass
Lesa Renfro addresses the Board with concerns about the remains of the forest 
practices versus land use and the regulations measured to enhance continual lumber 
supply. She said the sensitivity seems focused on development rights versus 
responsibility with unknown effects on growth.

David Jones, Kitsap County Association of Realtors, said the Association normally 
weighs its comments using the "quality of life" program and in this case, the issue of 
protecting property owners. He said the Association believes that citizens have the 
opportunity and right to freely own, use and transfer property. Relative to IRF, he said 
some of the properties being discussed have been down zoned and that could be 
considered as a "taking." He said the longer we wait the worse it gets and it is time to 
stop discussing and move forward on this issue.

Rob Purser, Suquamish Tribe, requests that the Board not pass any amendment 
language regarding interim rural forest this year and would support any direction to the 
County that would encourage continued discussion on this issue. He said to pass any 
language this year would be premature.

Ron Ross said he did not have any land in this category but recalls when the matter 
was adopted in the comprehensive plan and the discussions that the plan might not be 
good but could be reviewed within a year. He said it is unfair to the property owners 
who have land in this category and asked the Board to move forward on this matter.

Tom Donnelly said when the interim rural forest category was included in the 
comprehensive plan it was understood by most that this issue would be revisited. He 
believes the Board should adopt the recommendation of the Planning Commission that 
states wait until the issue has been examined in more detail and wait until the impacts 
are known. 

Karsten Boysen said he did not like words like "interim" because none of us live in a 
transitional existence. He favors a balanced approach to growth, believes it is inevitable 
and needs to be dealt with in a sensible and intelligent way. He believes that 
development standards should be based on the GMA standards - that growth pays for 
growth. 

Holly Manke White – not present

Jason Rice, Community Development, said during the 2001 comprehensive plan 
amendment process, the Board requested staff review two areas in North Kitsap 
County, Georges Corner and Pioneer Way. He said staff conducted an analysis to 
review the limited area of more intensive rural development (LAMIRD) and as defined 
under the Growth Management Act (GMA). He said after review, staff found that the 
Pioneer Way intersection, the Twelve Trees Industrial Park did not fit the criteria 
established under GMA in that there was no existing development in 1990. Relative to 
Georges Corner, Rice said staff did find evidence indicating that a LAMIRD designation 
could be defined and has so proposed. He said there has been some discussion as to 
what was presented to the Planning Commission relative to the boundary proposal. He 
said staff anticipated that the Planning Commission would actually delineate a 
boundary, however they decided to recommend against a boundary in this location 
thereby not designating a LAMIRD. Rice said there is also a rezone proposal for the 
Bjarnson property.

LIMITED AREA OF MORE INTENSIVE RURAL DEVELOPMENT (LAMIRD):  

Lyn Damschen, Edgewater Community Beach Club, said the Twelve Trees Industrial 
Park makes the previous gravel pit site look much better, however they are concerned 
about building the asphalt coverage on that ground due to the rain not soaking into the 
ground. She would like the developers of this area to keep in mind the salmon creek 
and the canyon that it flows into in that they would like to keep them as natural as 
possible.

Tom Donnelly said LAMIRD's were not included in the original GMA and created a 
major problem for Kitsap County. He said he supports designation of LAMIRD's at 
Georges Corner subject to the condition that the larger outer boundary is limited to the 
boundary of existing development and to the area being rezoned to commercial last 
year. He said he agrees with the development of what is already approved and would 
not like to see it go any farther and more generally to do not believe that any cross road 
LAMIRD should be designated where only one corner included pre-1990 commercial 
development.

Ron Ross said he would like to see the county getting aggressive and designating many 
more LAMIRD's, specifically Keyport.

Betsy Cooper said relative to the Georges Corner LAMIRD, she initially agreed with the 
Planning Commission's philosophical approach that a larger comprehensive evaluation 
of LAMIRD's needed to be done first but understood why this one was removed. She 
believes it is important to define boundaries around these specific little islands of more 
intense development. She supports the formation of a LAMIRD but a boundary should 
be created that only includes the existing development as it is today.

SITE SPECIFICS:

Gary Lindsey speaking on the Bjarnson site said it is a portion of approximately 13.75 
acres of Georges Corner and the last remaining corner that is undeveloped. He said the 
applicant's request is for 4 acres to be developed and that the rest of the property is 
primarily wetlands but the remaining 9.5 acres could use as a single-family residence 
with eventually some access for utilities for the zoned portion.

Lonnie Fall, Woodinville resident and property owner of the site north of Georges 
Corner, said he supports the LAMIRD concept and rezone of the Bjarnson property to 
commercial use. He said commercial use of the Bjarnson property appears to be 
appropriate and consistent with the community needs. He requests that his parcel be 
included within the expanded LAMIRD and reminded the county that his property was 
subject to an application for an unclassified public use and conditional use permit for a 
commercial planned unit in 1983.

William Palmer, representing Rose Burgess, said the site is located at the corner of 
Alaska Avenue SE and SE Mile Hill Drive and has been a site where people have 
parked "junk" cars and as a dump site. He asked the Board to consider one possible 
use of the site that is in keeping with what the applicant has in mind as an office center 
with some possible retail use. He said the site plan shows how access could be 
handled as well as landscaping and storm drainage.

J.B. Bartel, Manchester Village Committee, said it would be nice for Rose Burgess to 
make a profit on her land but not at the expense of the homeowners in the area. She 
said quality of life is important and safety is also important to the Manchester Area. 
Bartel said the requirements and requests of Rose Burgess are not acceptable.
 
Bob Lamb, Manchester Village Committee, said the whole purpose of the village 
concept is to maintain the area the way that it was in a sense. He believes the Burgess 
lot would be hard to sell.

Bob Parks, Manchester resident, said the traffic in the area is outrageous and 
recommends the Board vote against the rezone.

Paul Gilligan, Manchester Village Committee, said during the many discussions on the 
Manchester Village Plan the committee found no compelling reason to change the 
zoning in this area because everyone wanted the commercial zone to stay in the village 
center as it is now. He asked the Board to keep its promise to protect the village and 
keep commercial zoning in the village square.

Carole Leininger said she is against zoning that area as commercial and a great deal of 
time has been spent by the committee trying to determine what should be zoned and 
where.

Anna Whitten said this is a safety issue and the rezone is clearly to provide more 
money for Burgess. She said the price of their children is not worth the additional 
dollars.

Vivian Henderson, Kitsap Alliance of Property Owners, said the Alliance is concerned 
about property rights and questions whether the Board has seen the lot. She believes 
that viewing the lot is critical to making a decision. She said she liked the office-building 
concept for the lot.

Susan Plunkett, Manchester resident, asked the Board to turn this request down stating 
the benefit of the one does not outweigh the agreement and promises and the 
community of the rest.

Krysteen Seelen, Manchester resident, said rezoning on this property from residential to 
commercial would create a whole host of problems. She said the petition seeks to 
destroy the Manchester Plan, a plan that most of the residents support and that has 
received public accolades.

Rose Burgess said she would like to have her lot rezoned and that when she purchased 
the property in the early 70's it was zoned commercial in that it contained a 
convenience store on site. 

John Hutto said he has known Burgess for a number of years and he and his Dad had 
spent many hours cleaning garbage dumped on the site. He said the rezoning of this 
site would be a way for his mother to retire and to take this opportunity away from her is 
not right.

Sandy Hutto states all Burgess is asking is that the area be rezoned to a small 
neighborhood community business like it used to be. She asked that the other side of 
the story be considered.

Judy Mobley supports the rezone.

Peter Clark, Manchester resident, addresses the Board with concerns about the traffic 
in the area and said attempting to sell this property may not be due entirely to its 
location, it's the market.

Dusty Wiley said he has not heard anything derogatory about Rose Burgess the person 
but that was not the issue. He said the issue is what happens on the corners of 
Manchester and Port Orchard. He said if the Board rezones this corner, it would have to 
rezone the others.  He said he was also a part of the Manchester Village Committee, 
that it did review this corner and there was never any input from the property owner 
during these meetings. He said a single residence could be built on that corner.

Jim Thompson, Alaska Avenue resident, said its not an "eyesore" anymore since the 
County constructed a park on the site but the "eyesore" is the dump next door and if 
that was cleared the whole area would change.

Janet Garcia, Old Belfair Hwy resident, said relative to the Lockhart Site Specific, this is 
an extreme change and that historically, this site was zoned one house per five acres 
and it is now one house per ten. She said it is not insignificant in comparison to the rest 
of the quarry specifically to the access portion in that it is an approximate 20% increase 
in the size of the quarry. She is concerned about the minerals on the site and safety on 
the Belfair Hwy.

Pat Lockhart said the road referenced by Garcia isn't an existing road it's a 40-foot 
right-way and the main road that they would be using is the one that comes off 
Sherman Heights. He said the site is bordered on one side by commercial industrial, the 
railroad track is in front of the site, and mineral resource is in the back of the site and 
commercial on the other side. He believes the site is compatible and conducive to the 
land use.

William Palmer said the Sedgwick Joint Venture site is located next to property zoned 
highway tourist commercial including the Fred Meyer complex on the south side of 
Sedgwick Road. He said this property can be served by sewer and there is a letter from 
the City of Port Orchard in the file requesting approval of this rezone.

Richard Brown said Blackjack Valley Associates is a piece of property adjacent to 
Sedgwick Road and the only piece left not annexed into the City of Port Orchard. He 
said the additional property was needed if a major store was constructed on the site. 
Brown said staff suggested that the site be submitted for rezone and he believes this is 
a logical move to make.

Ron Rice said relative to the Brown/Rice/Krueger site, once this is put into place 
perhaps the county could start to recover tax revenue that was lost when Home Depot 
went to Pierce County.

Gary Anderson said relative to the properties on the Segwick/Sidney intersection, this 
was zoned commercial when most of the individuals purchased it, now that zoning 
category was taken away. He asked the Board to restore the original zoning at the time 
the property was purchased.

Rob Purser said the Tribe did not support site-specific rezones that increased densities 
outside the urban growth boundaries. He said this is an urban growth expansion without 
any type of comprehensive planning process.

Bret Winslow on reference to the Blackjack Valley Associates said it has been six years 
since he purchased the property in hopes of relocating his business to the site. He 
asked the Board to move forward on this issue and restore the zoning to the area.

Rhonda Edwards states she supports the rezoning and development of the entire 
Sedgwick/Sidney corridor not just Blackjack Valley Associates.

William Palmer spoke in support of the site-specific rezones for Waters, 
Brown/Rice/Krueger and Blackjack Valley Associates. He said a great deal of time was 
spent in discussion regarding environmental issues and constraints on these 
applications and all properties in the area have been under study for approximately ten 
years. He said there is a letter of support from the City of Port Orchard on file and 
asked the Board to move forward on these applications.

Richard Brown spoke in support of the site-specific rezones for South Sidney Business 
Park, Waters and Brown/Rice/Krueger and said they have done everything requested 
by the County. He said they have met with the City of Port Orchard and the city wants 
this area annexed. He encourages the Board to move forward.

Pat Waters said his piece of property is flat without any wetlands and with water and 
sewer availability. He said this is something that he has been waiting on for sometime 
and hopes he will not have to wait any longer.

William Palmer, representing the Choi family, said he has reviewed the Kingston Sub-
area plan and found that it did not address growth and expansion for business. He said 
the Choi's owned a 20-arce piece of property that has Grover's Creek running through it 
and is separated from the existing development closer to the corner. He said there is 
some developable property on the site even though a good portion of it is 
environmentally sensitive. He said there is interest in development at Georges Corner.

Ron Choi said he believes there is a need for business park/office space in the area 
and it would be a service to the community. He encourages the Board to vote on the 
rezone of his area.

Betsy Cooper – not present to speak.

Discussion was held among the Board regarding whether to close the hearing on ULID 
#6 and Kingston. 

A motion was made by Commissioner Endresen and seconded by Commissioner Lent 
that the Board close the public comment portion on the Comprehensive Plan 
Amendments with the exception of the South Kitsap Industrial Area (SKIA) and Interim 
Rural Forest Policy Revisions with continuation to October 15, 2003 at the hour of 2:00 
PM at the Kitsap County Courthouse, further that the written comment period will 
remain open for all items until September 26, 2003 with the exception of SKIA and IRF 
which will remain open until the close of the public hearing on October 15, 2003. Motion 
carries unanimously. 

Public meeting adjourned at 10:30 PM.

BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
	KITSAP COUNTY WASHINGTON

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JAN ANGEL, CHAIR

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CHRIS ENDRESEN, COMMISSIONER

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PATTY LENT, COMMISSIONER
ATTEST:
                                                       	 	
OPAL ROBERTSON	DATE APPROVED
CLERK OF THE BOARD
*   See Resolution Journal Volume No. 58
**  See Ordinance Journal Volume No. 12


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OCTOBER 13, 2003. 

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